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when you reply to a message. Stop first and consider
whether your response is really of interest to the whole
group, or should be privately addressed to the author
of the message.
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Only members of haikutalk2 may post to haikutalk2. If you wish to post to the list
from more than one address, you should create a "yahoo profile" and manage your own settings.
Make sure the "reply to" address is the one you want.
The default reply address points to the list
so it's very easy to address private replies
to the whole list without noticing,
while sometimes messages intended for the whole list
go only to a single email address.
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Mail settings:
Please set your mail program so that you
post messages in plain/text with "No coding"
and not in HTML
or other settings such as "multipart/alternative".
In particular avoid the so-called "quoted/printable" setting in MS Outlook.
Some email systems strip the headers off,
so people on those systems
can only reply to you directly
if you sign your message with your name
AND email address. This is much appreciated!
A number of mail-servers cannot accept
mail with 8-bit ascii characters
in the message header
(areas such as "from" and "subject"
and the beginning of the message).
Please be aware that some members
may not get your messages
if you use these characters,
which include umlauted characters,
accent marks, etc.
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Subject lines:
Please try to be specific in your subject line.
Our interests vary widely;
this will help those not interested
in your particular topic to move
through their mail more quickly.
This is especially true of topics
(or, "threads") which have been
under discussion for a while.
Sometimes the subject of later messages
wanders far afield from that of the original posting
and the subject heading needs to be updated!
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Bottom-posting
When replying to posts, it is normally preferable
to "bottom-post" rather than "top-post".
In other words, write your message below the
quoted message to which you are replying,
rather than above it. For more information
on why this practice is preferred, see
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html.
Quoting previous messages:
It is often necessary to quote PART of a letter in order to put your reply
into context.
The usual rule is that you should never quote more than your reply,
but it depends on circumstances.
Over-quoting of previous messages is especially annoying to digest subscribers.
It is not difficult and only takes a moment to edit out all but the
essential parts of the quoted message to which you are replying.
In particular, you should edit out the yahoo advertising.
No attachments:
Please do not send attachments.
If you have an attachment
you would like to share,
make the offer to send it privately
to those interested or
post it on a website and supply the URL.
Bounced messages:
If your mail gateway goes down
for several days, or if your address
becomes undeliverable for some reason
(like "mailbox full") for more than a short while
you will be unsubscribed from the list
and will need to resubscribe.
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Tolerance:
We need to be patient with our fellow subscribers.
Sometimes we make mistakes and post messages
we should not have posted,
or sent them to the wrong address.
Since the message comes back to us as a subscriber,
we quickly discover our own mistakes.
Unless the offense is repeated,
it need not be pointed out.
Such helpful messages,
despite being sent with the best
of intentions, only cause hard feelings,
particularly if they arrive after
an apology has been made to the list.
Debate is welcome; flaming is not.
Members who indulge in flaming will be deleted.
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Renga on the list:
Whilst is good to see people
creating renga,
there is a problem when trying to do so
through the medium of a mailing list.
Everyone reads their email at different times
and digest readers
only once a day.
So it is easy for someone to say write
a 5th link when someone else has already
taken it to a 7th or 8th link.
Those interested in joining
in a renga or two do best inviting others
to join them and to correspond between
themselves privately until their renga is complete.
Then by all means
mail the resulting work to the whole list
for comment.
Publication status:
Whilst it is the opinion of the list owner
that anything sent to haikutalk2 is not
"published" in the usual sense of that word,
not all persons, including some editors,
are of the same opinion and would consider
work so posted as being published,
and, as a consequence, the work might not be eligible
for consideration by editors who request
"unpublished" submissions only.
Many editors do not consider such postings
as being publications, but writers need
to check with individual editors on this matter.
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Attributing quotes:
When responding to haiku on the list it is
essential that all writing is correctly
attributed to the author concerned.
Haiku Talk cannot accept responsibility if
an author's failure to correctly identify
authors of works quoted in their messages
subsequently leads to charges of plagiarism
or breach of copyright.
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Forwarding messages:
Messages on this list are private to this list.
Messages posted to Haiku Talk
must not be forwarded to anyone off the list.
The only exceptions are: —
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if the author of the post (including any other author
whose writing is quoted therein)
gives you their express permission
to forward the message to another person;
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messages whose sole content relates
to competitions or magazines
seeking contributions
or to events freely open to the public.
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In all cases where a message is forwarded
it must be made clear to the recipient
that the message has been forwarded from this list with permission.
The only types of messages that should be forwarded TO the list
are ones related to new publications or genuine competitions. The names of the original recipients (but not the original sender) should be removed before
forwarding and a foreword included stating why you are forwarding
the information to the list.
If in doubt, send the message to the list-owner, who will then decide
whether or not it is appropriate to forward it to the list.
Crossposting:
Cross-posting is not allowed.
Do not send messages simultaneously to the list and to other lists or groups
of addresses which may include non-members. Send your message to the list
as a separate email to the list only.
Netiquette:
We want you to enjoy this list!
These netiquette guidelines are
intended to make it pleasant for everyone,
not scare you into permanent lurking!
They are GUIDELINES, not RULES!!!
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| Reply address
|Mail settings
|Subject lines
|Bottom-posting
|Over-quoting
|Attachments
|Bounces
|Tolerance
|Renga
|Publication Status
|Attributing Quotes
|Forwarding
|Crossposting
|Netiquette
|How to Join |
